Would I need permission for this?

February 1, 2021 by Paul in forum Planning Forum

#910 Paul, 1 February 2021, 13:22

Hello all,

This is my first post and I am hoping someone can advise me initially rather than paying the council at this point, and any response much appreciated.

I live in rural Devon on a farm in the original farmhouse. It is no longer attached to the farm though, as my father separated it 15 years ago so that we could build on an extension that would form an annexe for my parents and ownership became shared between myself and my parents. I now occupy the pre-extension part of the house with my family. The annexe was built in 2006 and occupies much the same foot print as the original house but is single storey height. It is joined to the main house, hence the 'annexe' designation.

My wife and I would like to build on with a single storey extension/orangery to contain a new, larger kitchen. I would envisage the building being 5 x 6 metres and set in our good sized garden to the east. There are no issues with any surrounding properties and the road to the side of the house is our private lane.

My question is - Would this need permission given the 2006 extension or would it fall as permitted development?

The linked Google photo shows the original house (lower) with the proposed extension position and my parents annexe above (with the conservatory attached).


Many thanks in advance.

#911 Damian, 1 February 2021, 22:19

Did the Planning application in 2006 make reference to any special site restrictions, withdrawal of PD rights, etc...?

Just out of interest, is the red line indicating the proposed extension which is considered to be on the front/principal elevation?

#912 Paul, 4 February 2021, 13:27

Thanks for your reply Damian.

No, there were no restrictions on the 2006 application (it was actually granted in the 90s then renewed).

The red line extension is actually on the side of the house. The front is at the bottom but the main garden is to the side.

#913 Paul, 4 February 2021, 13:30

Here is a better image:


#915 Damian, 4 February 2021, 19:53

Although that would normally be considered the front, I’m thinking Planning would treat the side as the principal elevation as it’s the one that faces the road. It also has the path linking it from the road to the house. Assuming this is the case, the extension would be on the principal elevation, which is not allowed via PD.

#917 Paul, 4 February 2021, 20:46

I hear what you are saying but when seeing the house in the flesh the front is more apparent. The side facing the garden has just two windows and no door on the main house, whereas the front faces south and dominates. The room layout inside also makes it very apparent, with double fronted rooms downstairs and the main two bedrooms facing south, as well as the front door into the hallway.

The road is not a public road but I don't know if that makes any difference.

#920 Damian, 4 February 2021, 22:34

That is my view. If you want clarification, submit a LDC application to the LPA.

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